6 of the biggest revelations from Taylor Swift’s TIME person of the year profile

Swift admitted that while most of their relationship has played out publicly, she revealed that when Kelce put her on the spot on his podcast, they began seeing each other privately immediately after that.

“So we actually had a significant amount of time that no one knew, which I’m grateful for, because we got to get to know each other,” she said. “By the time I went to that first game, we were a couple. I think some people think that they saw our first date at that game? We would never be psychotic enough to hard launch a first date.”

She said that the public nature of their relationship doesn’t deter her from “going to see him do what he loves. We’re showing up for each other, other people are there and we don’t care,” she said. “The opposite of that is you have to go to an extreme amount of effort to make sure no one knows that you’re seeing someone. And we’re just proud of each other.”